I work at a HCA hospital as a nurse and it’s true . Over worked and under staffed . We miss mistakes all the time and thankfully nothing bad has happened so far …. But I’m leaving HCA in the next couple months . Our patient ratios are 7 to 1 nurse and I feel like my license is on the line every day . Terrible place to work
I worked at an hca in TX for 20 years. Staffing is a joke. Tele ratio? 1 tele tech to 64 to 120 pts. RNs were 7:1 frequently. HCA continues to gaslight employees and former employees. And all for a crappy salary.
@@Perpertua35 I currently work at a HCA hospital in Southern California and yes there is mandated ratio laws in California however the Ca dept of public health is so understaffed that they aren’t able to oversee that HCA is abiding by these ratio laws and therefore HCA is getting away with breaking that law and giving nurses between 1:5 and 1:6 pts and having 1 CNA for evening and night shift or sometimes no CNA at all.
This is what happens when hospitals are run like fortune 500’s. There is no reason why a single entity needs to own 16 hospitals, that’s disgusting. They’re being run like grocery store chains. My hospital was taken over by a larger system with 6 hospitals 6 years ago, now, they want to merge with an even larger system with 14 hospitals. Healthcare mergers aren’t about giving patients access to services, they’re about money.
Thank you so much for saying what the ant-vaxx movement is saying.. the covid jab had a conflict of interest called profits, pushed by Corporate Science. It was all about money.. money before patients.. sales before long term safety studies
One can make an argument that consolidation can reduce cost by getting rid of redundant administration - central admin could run many hospitals for the same price. Unfortunately what happens is that they figure out they can make more money by cutting staff who are NOT redundant
One thing I have learned about healthcare is that people in society don’t care about anything nursing, healthcare related until it affects them directly.
I work at HCA hospital and was floated to 4 different units in one shift because of the understaff . HCA is definitely a profit driven company overcharging the patients and underpaying the staff .
I'm a telemetry tech. My hospital just finished transitioning away from HCA. This is unfortunately true. There are nights when I am alone watching 7 screens with up to 75 patients. I hate those nights but we are short handed with only 3 night monitor techs.
HCA is the worst thing to happen to the people of Western North Carolina. I was an RN working in Florida when HCA took over our hospital. On day one our supply quality deteriorated, the workload became unmanageable, the more experienced nurses (and highest paid) were squeezed out and moral was terrible. They only care about making money for people who have nothing to do with actual health care delivery.
I’ve spent a lot of time in hospitals with my mom as she was passing and then it was my Dad’s turn. I’ve seen grotesque incompetence throughout Every department. Stuff I still can’t believe. Try to eat healthy and try to stay healthy!
Thats what I tell people. I worked at HCA for about 5 years. They have always squeezed the life out of staff expecting more than they provide. The thing is all hospitals are getting to this point due to the shortages and declining moral as a result of treating HCW as having little value. A lot of clinical staff just leave, many without even having another job first. Eat right, live right. Your health has always been up to you.
@@orchider143Not always the solution. There’s health nuts that die or get sick. It’s the nurses fault and corporations. Anyone under 50 in healthcare just wants to be on their phone and do tik toks. That’s a huge problem I’ve seen in hospitals. Then you have just out right mean nurses that don’t care about anyone, even at the point of death. Doctors are just dealers and will give any medicine to make you numb so you can go and they can have free time.
As a RN in the US system, this is not surprising to me at all. You've been running stories like this for years. We need to address our health care crises as a nation. Our system recently removed clinic lab techs and dumped the responsibility on the nurses. We have *NO* lab training whatsoever. You need to have enough bodies working on the floor to actually perform resuscitations.
as an RN, the hospital used to teach us to monitor our own patients...on top of everything else....which you can imagine didn't go over well......a person can't do 73 things at once....No negative outcome that i recall...i just remember the added stress to an already stressful job....
This seems 100% spot on. I lived in Houston for years and have known a great deal of people that worked for HCA facilities all over Texas. Their nurses, doctors, and staff take the blame with lawsuits. All while HCA openly prioritizes their bottom line. But hey! It is a business. Don't forget, they've had record breaking margins since the pandemic! So that's good. /s
HCA Hospital in Houston sent me home with Atelectasis after Surgery, and I ended up in another Hospital after complications started that same night. In fear that something serious was still wrong, the next Hospital did a Cat Scan only to find out what they operated on me for was still there. How could this happen. I contacted them with my concern and said their Doctors did nothing wrong. I was livid.
That's greed and it's happening in all hospitals because staff is being cut and executives salaries is in the millions. Just not fair for patients and nurses.
As a tele tech it is hard when ur watching 60 patients. Also as a tele tech communication is bad between tele techs and nurses. When I see a problem and can’t get in touch with the nurse I call a Tele Alert over the intercom
Last month when my father in law was in a hospital, we found out the doctors come in early before family arrives for visits. Rarely spoke to a doctor during his stay, sad.
Yeah, that's because they don't want to talk to you. Most families are idiots when it comes to care of their relatives. I don't blame the doctors for not wanting to deal with imbeciles on a daily basis.
I know an associate who is the physician and he told me he would never work at an HCA hospital because they are horrible , never on time , long wait hours , overworked staff he felt like it was similar to some hospitals in 3rd world countries
They need more whistle-blowers to speak up. Part of the issue is that people are afraid to speak up because they are afraid of the retaliation that might result. Plus, it's a lot of time and money to take these corporate big whigs to court. They have deeper pockets and great lawyers to make things go away.
Medical Malpractice is out of control, with no end in sight. Doktors, staff, hospitals, clinics are all above the law. We are being poisoned, maimed, and murdered at the hands of those who have OUR LIVES in their care. The insurance they pay is outrageous but it still is impossible to take these murderers to court and win. The laws MUST BE CHANGED to protect the patient and to hold the ones in power responsible for their terrorist behaviors toward the victims.
And telemetry is overused to make money for the corporation. Half of the patients who are told they need telemetry don't! It takes away the monitoring ability of the tele techs for patients who actually need to be monitored. All for the money.
HCA is a for-profit corporation. It's always been a out "the all mighty dollar" for HCA and it always will be. Their pay is extremely low, unless you're a member of their C-suites; Sam Hazen, CEO of HCA, makes $20M+ every year (including bonuses and whatnot). The more money that is saved in the hospitals themselves goes to the directors, administrators, and the echelon of HCA; not to the employees, not to the hospitals, and definitely not towards patient care.
I work for GE Healthcare at an HCA hospital in Miami and our team always makes sure those telemetry monitors work the way they should. I pray nothing like this comes up here.
Cut staff to save the hospital money…then the CEO gets a raise from 3.3 million to 4 million a year. It should be about patient outcomes and not about the CEOs personal outcome.
And this is why most people are leaving bedside. One day ur a nurse and the next ur in jail. Unsafe and the nurses pay the brunt of it. Soon it will be robots taking care of people. I’m sorry this family lost loved one. I can personally say most nurses are great at what they do definitely over worked
I went into sweetish medical center /HCA for recovery from aortic surgery and left under protest 3 months later with 3 deadly infections. pneumonia , and a 3 1/2 in hole in my back . In the first week there I caught a cardiac nurse trying to run a transfer on my debit card
The good ole USA. Where healthcare is one HUGE business and patients really dont feature at all . None of us should be surprised at all. Most healthcare (for profit and "Non-Profit) are in it for the big money to their shareholders and Corporate C-Suite /Trustees etc. Take a look at healthcare organizations posted financials and see how much their CEOs, COO's CFO's , CNO's make ? On the backs of hardworking nurses and doctors and more importantly , the patients.
Awesome story😁. There needs to be regulation! HCA definitely needs to held accountable!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! What’s an oath for if you’re not abiding by it! That’s lawlessness; & it’s just as bad a drug dealer on the street. He doesn’t care about your health either & all he wants is your money - same scenario except one goes to jail & the other gets bonuses, commissions, yadda yadda yadda - smh😖
MICU RN here, sorry but most of us are here for the pay. Pay your nurses well and theyll provide high quality care. Pay them trash and youll only have ADN nurses and floor scraping LVNs.
We Americans allow this, it is not HCA fault, they have a duty to their share holders and it is to create profit, we have the power to fix this by not letting healthcare tobe for profit, we can fix this not HCA
They whole system has been incredibly strained for staff since the government threw the industry into the blender with COVID. HCA has it's troubles as they all do, but there are far worse hospital systems. People here get sick of the hospital industry, convinced, without reason, that it's HCA alone. They go to Seton, Ascension, or Baylor, Scott, & White and find out that it's much worse at those places.
Unfortunately profit is the most important part of "for profit" healthcare...I'm so glad I work for a non-profit hospital....we are 100% patient centered and provide amazing care....the for-profit hospitals made me sick to my stomach and stressed me out to the max....
Look into how they are replacing physicians with nurse practitioners while billing the same amount. But at least the administration can buy another yacht.
It’s the hospital goal to push people out as fast as possible. It’s usually premature and results in an unsafe discharge and high rate of rapid re-hospitalizations.
Memorial Hermann Southwest, MH Cypress, and MH Katy in Houston are absolutely trash. HCA has been trying to improve their conditions (the HCA rehab in Pasadena is not to bad) but the one near med center is garbage.
They should research nursing homes where nurse are required to care for 25-30 patients, residents deteriorate so fast in this places there’s no way one nurse can give adequate care to 25-30 patients it’s horrible and disgusting the healthcare system everywhere in horrible it’s only about the money not about quality care for patients
Look into parkwest in knoxville, patient ratios 10-1 nurse and ballad in the tri cities doing Foley catheters in the ER hallways showing off your junk to everyone and their family. Healthcare is general is no longer care at all
I work at a HCA hospital as a nurse and it’s true . Over worked and under staffed . We miss mistakes all the time and thankfully nothing bad has happened so far …. But I’m leaving HCA in the next couple months . Our patient ratios are 7 to 1 nurse and I feel like my license is on the line every day . Terrible place to work
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CA has a ratio law. For patients on telemetry 4:1 is the state law. 4 patients for every 1 RN. I assure you this makes a huge difference.
I worked at an hca in TX for 20 years. Staffing is a joke. Tele ratio? 1 tele tech to 64 to 120 pts. RNs were 7:1 frequently. HCA continues to gaslight employees and former employees. And all for a crappy salary.
WOW! 7:1 that's horrible! Safe Harbor should definitely be inkoved!
@@Perpertua35 I currently work at a HCA hospital in Southern California and yes there is mandated ratio laws in California however the Ca dept of public health is so understaffed that they aren’t able to oversee that HCA is abiding by these ratio laws and therefore HCA is getting away with breaking that law and giving nurses between 1:5 and 1:6 pts and having 1 CNA for evening and night shift or sometimes no CNA at all.
This is what happens when hospitals are run like fortune 500’s. There is no reason why a single entity needs to own 16 hospitals, that’s disgusting. They’re being run like grocery store chains. My hospital was taken over by a larger system with 6 hospitals 6 years ago, now, they want to merge with an even larger system with 14 hospitals. Healthcare mergers aren’t about giving patients access to services, they’re about money.
Thank you so much for saying what the ant-vaxx movement is saying.. the covid jab had a conflict of interest called profits, pushed by Corporate Science. It was all about money.. money before patients.. sales before long term safety studies
One can make an argument that consolidation can reduce cost by getting rid of redundant administration - central admin could run many hospitals for the same price. Unfortunately what happens is that they figure out they can make more money by cutting staff who are NOT redundant
HCA doesn't own 16
They own hundreds
They will be under different names. For example in Nashville they are called TriStar but they are HCA hospitals
I am a Registered Nurse that has worked at many facilities including a HCA facility. This is unacceptable in any hospital.
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Agreed, cardiac nurse now retired they often just neglect to put the patient on the monitors
One thing I have learned about healthcare is that people in society don’t care about anything nursing, healthcare related until it affects them directly.
I'm an RN of 39 years. This is, sadly, so true.
@@mumseyllama right
Blossom30x4 right
Thank you for revealing this dangerous practice!
I work at HCA hospital and was floated to 4 different units in one shift because of the understaff . HCA is definitely a profit driven company overcharging the patients and underpaying the staff .
Healthcare is a business industry.
Its not about caring about our health.
I'm a telemetry tech. My hospital just finished transitioning away from HCA. This is unfortunately true. There are nights when I am alone watching 7 screens with up to 75 patients. I hate those nights but we are short handed with only 3 night monitor techs.
HCA is the worst thing to happen to the people of Western North Carolina. I was an RN working in Florida when HCA took over our hospital. On day one our supply quality deteriorated, the workload became unmanageable, the more experienced nurses (and highest paid) were squeezed out and moral was terrible. They only care about making money for people who have nothing to do with actual health care delivery.
Sad
Never let your loved ones be in the hospital alone.
I was a lead telemetry tech at HCA in DFW for ten years and left in November because of unsafe conditions.
I’ve spent a lot of time in hospitals with my mom as she was passing and then it was my Dad’s turn. I’ve seen grotesque incompetence throughout Every department. Stuff I still can’t believe. Try to eat healthy and try to stay healthy!
There’s incompetence from individual staff members but then there’s system wide policies that prioritize corporate profit over patient health.
Thats what I tell people. I worked at HCA for about 5 years. They have always squeezed the life out of staff expecting more than they provide. The thing is all hospitals are getting to this point due to the shortages and declining moral as a result of treating HCW as having little value. A lot of clinical staff just leave, many without even having another job first. Eat right, live right. Your health has always been up to you.
@@orchider143Not always the solution. There’s health nuts that die or get sick. It’s the nurses fault and corporations. Anyone under 50 in healthcare just wants to be on their phone and do tik toks. That’s a huge problem I’ve seen in hospitals. Then you have just out right mean nurses that don’t care about anyone, even at the point of death. Doctors are just dealers and will give any medicine to make you numb so you can go and they can have free time.
As a RN in the US system, this is not surprising to me at all. You've been running stories like this for years. We need to address our health care crises as a nation. Our system recently removed clinic lab techs and dumped the responsibility on the nurses. We have *NO* lab training whatsoever. You need to have enough bodies working on the floor to actually perform resuscitations.
as an RN, the hospital used to teach us to monitor our own patients...on top of everything else....which you can imagine didn't go over well......a person can't do 73 things at once....No negative outcome that i recall...i just remember the added stress to an already stressful job....
I used to be a Scheduler for an HCA hospital. The decisions they make are almost only with profits in mind.
Bless all nurses, their on the front lines.
This seems 100% spot on. I lived in Houston for years and have known a great deal of people that worked for HCA facilities all over Texas.
Their nurses, doctors, and staff take the blame with lawsuits. All while HCA openly prioritizes their bottom line.
But hey! It is a business. Don't forget, they've had record breaking margins since the pandemic! So that's good. /s
The legacy of Rick Scott lives on
Hows that for profit healthcare working out for you?
About the same as the for profit prisons
About the same as it works out for you I suppose..
HCA Hospital in Houston sent me home with Atelectasis after Surgery, and I ended up in another Hospital after complications started that same night. In fear that something serious was still wrong, the next Hospital did a Cat Scan only to find out what they operated on me for was still there. How could this happen. I contacted them with my concern and said their Doctors did nothing wrong. I was livid.
It’s not just HCA, it’s the WHOLE AMERICAN HEALTHCARE SYSTEM!!!!!
HCA hospitals and their CEOs are unstoppable
I know, that's why I invested heavily on them. Real money makers $$$$
That's greed and it's happening in all hospitals because staff is being cut and executives salaries is in the millions. Just not fair for patients and nurses.
This is truly juat the tip of the iceberg for HCA hospitals...
Long term care is all about putting profits before patients. They’ve figured out a way to legally fleece our elders.
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Sadly I believe these is a lot of truth to that. But that's every business I guess..
As a tele tech it is hard when ur watching 60 patients. Also as a tele tech communication is bad between tele techs and nurses. When I see a problem and can’t get in touch with the nurse I call a Tele Alert over the intercom
Saw an investigation on this with a doctor who came out on HCA Hospitals a couple years ago…so still NO CHANGES??
Last month when my father in law was in a hospital, we found out the doctors come in early before family arrives for visits. Rarely spoke to a doctor during his stay, sad.
Yeah, that's because they don't want to talk to you. Most families are idiots when it comes to care of their relatives. I don't blame the doctors for not wanting to deal with imbeciles on a daily basis.
I know an associate who is the physician and he told me he would never work at an HCA hospital because they are horrible , never on time , long wait hours , overworked staff he felt like it was similar to some hospitals in 3rd world countries
They need more whistle-blowers to speak up. Part of the issue is that people are afraid to speak up because they are afraid of the retaliation that might result. Plus, it's a lot of time and money to take these corporate big whigs to court. They have deeper pockets and great lawyers to make things go away.
Companies interest/goal is money. Healthcare shouldn’t be privatized
Medical Malpractice is out of control, with no end in sight. Doktors, staff, hospitals, clinics are all above the law. We are being poisoned, maimed, and murdered at the hands of those who have OUR LIVES in their care. The insurance they pay is outrageous but it still is impossible to take these murderers to court and win. The laws MUST BE CHANGED to protect the patient and to hold the ones in power responsible for their terrorist behaviors toward the victims.
that doesn’t happen in Canada s it for non profit up here in the states it’s Walmart
I’m sorry, what?
It's not Walmart it's like getting charged thousands of dollars for dollar general value care. Healthcare in this country is garbage.
Telemetry is never given the diligence it should have!
And telemetry is overused to make money for the corporation. Half of the patients who are told they need telemetry don't! It takes away the monitoring ability of the tele techs for patients who actually need to be monitored. All for the money.
This is CRAZY !
HCA is a for-profit corporation. It's always been a out "the all mighty dollar" for HCA and it always will be. Their pay is extremely low, unless you're a member of their C-suites; Sam Hazen, CEO of HCA, makes $20M+ every year (including bonuses and whatnot). The more money that is saved in the hospitals themselves goes to the directors, administrators, and the echelon of HCA; not to the employees, not to the hospitals, and definitely not towards patient care.
I went to the ER for chest pains and was never put on monitors after a routine eeg. Its disgusting how HCA handles patients
Beyond Unacceptable!!!!
I work for GE Healthcare at an HCA hospital in Miami and our team always makes sure those telemetry monitors work the way they should. I pray nothing like this comes up here.
Cut staff to save the hospital money…then the CEO gets a raise from 3.3 million to 4 million a year. It should be about patient outcomes and not about the CEOs personal outcome.
And this is why most people are leaving bedside. One day ur a nurse and the next ur in jail. Unsafe and the nurses pay the brunt of it. Soon it will be robots taking care of people. I’m sorry this family lost loved one. I can personally say most nurses are great at what they do definitely over worked
The State of North Carolina is currently suing HCA over breach of contract with their purchase of Mission Hospital a previously non-profit facility.
Great reporting! Thanks for bringing important stories related to healthcare.
Yeah, healthcare for profit, that's the point. Don't hate the player, hate the game
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Do More With Less. The HCA motto. Period.
It’s okay in corporate America , all about CEOs making millions
I went into sweetish medical center /HCA for recovery from aortic surgery and left under protest 3 months later with 3 deadly infections. pneumonia , and a 3 1/2 in hole in my back .
In the first week there I caught a cardiac nurse trying to run a transfer on my debit card
The good ole USA. Where healthcare is one HUGE business and patients really dont feature at all . None of us should be surprised at all. Most healthcare (for profit and "Non-Profit) are in it for the big money to their shareholders and Corporate C-Suite /Trustees etc. Take a look at healthcare organizations posted financials and see how much their CEOs, COO's CFO's , CNO's make ? On the backs of hardworking nurses and doctors and more importantly , the patients.
This is why I will never go to HCA hospital.
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Awesome story😁. There needs to be regulation! HCA definitely needs to held accountable!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! What’s an oath for if you’re not abiding by it! That’s lawlessness; & it’s just as bad a drug dealer on the street. He doesn’t care about your health either & all he wants is your money - same scenario except one goes to jail & the other gets bonuses, commissions, yadda yadda yadda - smh😖
Capitaism has a dark side.
Hospital should not be for profit should be none profit.
I hope this investigation will save lives 🙏🏽‼️
For profit hospital should never exist, but I think our government is falling us. There is not legislation regulating this either.
MICU RN here, sorry but most of us are here for the pay. Pay your nurses well and theyll provide high quality care. Pay them trash and youll only have ADN nurses and floor scraping LVNs.
So true, sad but true.
ALL THE SYSTEM IS PROFIT BEFORE PATIENTS!!!! what are you talking about?
Evil!!
We Americans allow this, it is not HCA fault, they have a duty to their share holders and it is to create profit, we have the power to fix this by not letting healthcare tobe for profit, we can fix this not HCA
They whole system has been incredibly strained for staff since the government threw the industry into the blender with COVID.
HCA has it's troubles as they all do, but there are far worse hospital systems.
People here get sick of the hospital industry, convinced, without reason, that it's HCA alone. They go to Seton, Ascension, or Baylor, Scott, & White and find out that it's much worse at those places.
HCA took my 800 PTO hours without paying a dime
Sorry it was not PTO. It was EIB, the policy changed and it stayed on my profile u til I retired but was never compensated. It was earned EIB
@jeonggogue3914 you can't cash out EIB. You're blessed you never had to take extended sick leave.
This is despicable
Unfortunately profit is the most important part of "for profit" healthcare...I'm so glad I work for a non-profit hospital....we are 100% patient centered and provide amazing care....the for-profit hospitals made me sick to my stomach and stressed me out to the max....
Non profit hospitals RN salaries are garbage. Sorry but I didn't go get a BSN to make LVN wages. For profit is the way for easy 60-65/hr pay.
In Inglewood co On the weekends the people that bring food also empty urinals for the patient
6:00 What kind of question was that? Are you picking on them? If the evidence wasn’t there, there would be no story.
Look into how they are replacing physicians with nurse practitioners while billing the same amount.
But at least the administration can buy another yacht.
100% true about HCA practices
Leadership does not care
It’s the hospital goal to push people out as fast as possible. It’s usually premature and results in an unsafe discharge and high rate of rapid re-hospitalizations.
they charge 60,000 for 3 days
Asheville NC Mission hospital is being sued.
Memorial Hermann Southwest, MH Cypress, and MH Katy in Houston are absolutely trash.
HCA has been trying to improve their conditions (the HCA rehab in Pasadena is not to bad) but the one near med center is garbage.
They should research nursing homes where nurse are required to care for 25-30 patients, residents deteriorate so fast in this places there’s no way one nurse can give adequate care to 25-30 patients it’s horrible and disgusting the healthcare system everywhere in horrible it’s only about the money not about quality care for patients
You called the tune, now dance.
what big corporation would use DOS system on patient care? HCA thats who
HCA has always been greedy since the late 80's.
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Cummings Ridge
Some hospitals don't care about staff, too. Some are overworked.
Use to be a RT at a HCA facility…. Over worked, under staffed, and under paid.
Why HCA
I thought at one time being tech, but not now😢
Elvie Lakes
Garrison Lakes
Edgar Flats
Parker Court
In these times, REMOTE MONITOR
SILENCING MONITORS CRIMINAL PROSECUTABLE
Do we know what HCA stands for?
Hospital Corporation of America
@@jennieperez9402 right
Financial revolution people. Imagine what the money ghouls will do for $$ and it doesn't even come close.
Josie Drives
Norberto Mews
Look into parkwest in knoxville, patient ratios 10-1 nurse and ballad in the tri cities doing Foley catheters in the ER hallways showing off your junk to everyone and their family. Healthcare is general is no longer care at all
Duh.
Scot Stravenue
Kelsie Ferry
Devin Inlet
What a supris e a for profit healthsystem first priority is making money
In other news, water is wet
Pierre Hill
Stacy Parks
Darby Parkway
The truth hurts